How to Cope with Good Fortune

 
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Actor Ron Perlman, star of Sons of Anarchy, has known Phil since the 1990s and claims to be the inspiration for many of the Tools Phil invented. In this open-hearted and intrepid conversation, he talks candidly about failure, anger, and why he turned to prayer when success and good fortune messed with his head.

This recording is an archive of an episode from The Tools Sessions, a series of talks and interviews produced when The Tools was published in 2013.